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kowenicki


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09/04/09 20:27 GMT

So so pleased this looks like a bad outcome for the EU....  This is the same EU that constantly has a go at Microsoft...  double standards? damn right!  Now Airbus may get a huge fine as well as trying to keep their shitty planes in the sky.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8237317.stm

WTO rules on huge plane dispute

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Reports suggest the WTO ruling has gone against Airbus

The World Trade Organization (WTO) has given its long-awaited ruling on the biggest trade dispute in its history.

The decision, which is officially confidential, is over whether the European Union gave illegal subsidies to planemaker Airbus as the US argues.

The Wall Street Journal and others reported that the WTO had found in favour of the US position.

But a UK government source told the BBC that the WTO verdict was much more of a "mixed outcome".

"The decision really questions the wisdom of taking this to the WTO in the first place," the UK source told the BBC.

"Boeing will be far from jubilant tonight."

Both US and European diplomats have declined to officially release the ruling, which is more than 1,000 pages long.

The decision is not expected to be officially made public for at least several months.

Illegal aid

The EU has also made a counter claim against the US for its support of Boeing. A ruling on the EU's claim against the US is due in the next six to eight months.

The ruling on Airbus comes after five years of deliberations.

Other US news reports had suggested that subsidies from Brussels were illegal under world trade rules.

But the source said the verdict did not suggest that the EU had engaged in systematic aid to Airbus.

Aid given by the EU to the European aircraft maker for its A350 aircraft was not cited, for example, the source said.

'Good case'

Experts say the WTO's decision will set the boundaries for acceptable government funding in civil aviation.

But Howard Wheeldon, senior strategist at BGC Partners, said there was still a long way to go in the saga.

"This whole WTO process is going to last four to five years. It's going to be 2013 at least before we get a final settlement on this," he said.

He added that Boeing and Airbus have to find terms so that they can work together based on what the WTO actually rules.

Louis Gallois, the chief executive of Airbus's parent company EADS, said before the decision that he believes the company has a "very good case".



 
 


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09/04/09 21:02 GMT

The EU is ridiculously protectionist and anti-free trade.

They make the US look completely fair in comparison.

If the US did half the shit the EU does tons of nations would bitch. 

Whether the WTO could actually do anything to them is unlikely though.

 

The EU's protectionism is so silly that CHINA has filed against them in the WTO court.



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09/04/09 21:17 GMT
Good find.

Everyone and an idiot knows that the EU subsidized Airbus - directly or indirectly.

Hypocrisy.

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09/04/09 21:28 GMT
So, what actions come out of the WTO ruling?

I think Canada are also planning on taking the EU to the WTO after its ban on the import of seal products.

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SamuelRSmith said:
So, what actions come out of the WTO ruling?

I think Canada are also planning on taking the EU to the WTO after its ban on the import of seal products.

I'd guess a storngly worded opinion.



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09/04/09 21:36 GMT
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
So, what actions come out of the WTO ruling?

I think Canada are also planning on taking the EU to the WTO after its ban on the import of seal products.

I'd guess a storngly worded opinion.

This and both the US and the EU will agree to cut some of their support for both companies. And they will somehow agree, to fight any other company (from China at one day) to get into the market. That's how politics work.

kowenicki


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09/04/09 22:16 GMT
Yeah and they turned a blind eye when the Italian government continually bankrolled Fiat... and when the French did the same with Renault...

Its a joke.

 
 

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09/05/09 00:12 GMT
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.



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Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.

Your joking right?  Who else is supposed to do Military work.


The EU takes protectionism to a whole different level then the US.



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Kasz216 said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, and it'd be totally kosher if they dumped billions upon billions worth of military contracts like the US does, huh?

Both entities subisidize their respective industrial bases.

Your joking right?  Who else is supposed to do Military work.


The EU takes protectionism to a whole different level then the US.

 

But that's the point, the US government throws billions at boeing the same way the EU does with Airbus.

Each entity uses different means to channel public money towards the aeronautic conglomerates but at the end, both Boeing and Airbus get a nice bottom line boost courtesy from public budgets.





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