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トゥー・ヒューマン

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Silicon Knights

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Role-Playing

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Release Dates

08/19/08 Microsoft Game Studios
08/28/08 Microsoft Game Studios
08/29/08 Microsoft Game Studios

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Owners:	185
Favorite:	3
Tracked:	2
Wishlist:	2
Now Playing:	6

6.8 Avg Community Rating:

Too Human (X360)

Too Human (X360) > Opinions (148)

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	Ganoncrotch posted 08/09/2012, 12:45 I actually loved this game, self and my bro played through the whole thing co op over xbl and got every achievement in the game, if you have the unstoppable achievements on your xbox live profile I tip my hat to you, this is one tough nut to finish without dying but damn rewarding game if you get into it. Just a shame it was meant to be a trilogy originally so the game ends on a fairly class cliffhanger which will never be resolved.... will never get to fight that giant mech shown in the ending... depressing. Message \| Report
	thewastedyouth posted 13/04/2012, 06:27 If they had made this 4 player coop and let you trade the loot with some sort of auction house this would have been amazing very sad!!! Message \| Report
	wiilicious posted 13/02/2012, 01:24 Don't care about your opinion I like this game. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 24/09/2011, 09:28 Pretty disappointing game. Message \| Report
	slipknotfan posted 26/06/2011, 04:49 This game stunk. Was gonna be a new franchise. Glad it wasnt! Message \| Report
	MiSan7573 posted 02/02/2011, 01:27 LOL..this shovelware does not look like a game that took 3 years to create. It's sad when Silicon Knights actually took a decade to create this dissapointment which probably lead to their demise. I got it for $5 during the time fry's was clearing their stock and it's what it is worth in my opinion. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 21/01/2011, 08:15 Edit: I meant 2008, not 2009. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 21/01/2011, 08:15 For the record, they didn't actually spend 10 years creating this game. A PS1 game was in the works and got scraped. A Gamecube game was in the works but got scraped. MS bought rights in 2005 and the game was released in 2009. Hence, they spent like 3 years creating THIS game. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 21/01/2011, 08:06 It only needs to sell a thousand every week for 270 more weeks to hit a million. :-p Message \| Report
	oni-link posted 22/04/2010, 08:41 @ivery I'd rather play this game than Lair!!! Message \| Report
	Aion posted 13/04/2010, 04:09 Really good game, to bad every one bashes this game with crap like 10 years to develop. Message \| Report
	Iveyboi posted 31/03/2010, 05:02 This is one of the worst games ever made. 10+ years? Come on man. RIP Silicon Knights. Message \| Report
	Altitude posted 26/02/2010, 08:12 This is a great game. I can't wait for the sequel. Message \| Report
	elticker posted 23/02/2010, 10:25 Very nice game. Deserves more but the camera control is what made people flock away from it like i did when i played the demo btu when i bought it i got used to it the story is great though its mostly 4 or 5 huge levels Message \| Report
	Nebulous posted 03/02/2010, 02:02 @ Gilgamesh: Dude.... no, no, and no. Think about what you're saying, $80 million? who would have given Silicon Knights that kind of money, for one game? that's preposterous, and utter bullocks. In truth, they were making a Too human for PS1, the game was in development, but then got shelved when SK began working on Eternal Darkenss. After that, the only think ever shown was a CG trailer they made for Gamecube. Too Human on 360 is an entirely different game. Those points were made in the EGM TH cover story, and in TH's IGN blog. On 360, the game was in development for 4 years (started in 2004 I believe). There's no way Microsoft would have given them 80 Million upfornt, thats not how publishing contracts work, you have to hit milestones to get paid. @ oni-link: Dude, the only person who factually knows how long TH was in development is Denis Dyack. The fact that you're trying to argue what the creator of the game says, is hilarious. Message \| Report
	oni-link posted 11/01/2010, 09:30 um that doesn' t prove anything. Anyhoo this game is decent for the price I picked it up for ($10 @frys). If we see a sequel hopefully ppl will be more understanding. Message \| Report
	dsister44 posted 02/01/2010, 12:24 It was not in development for 10 years.http://xbox.joystiq.com/2008/08/25/dyack-on-10-years-of-too-human-misconception/ Message \| Report
	Gilgamesh posted 18/12/2009, 04:00 @Nebulous, Too Human was in development for almost 10 years. It was originally planed for the PSOne. It cost roughly $80 million to make which was funded all by Microsoft. In order to break even they'll have to sell around 3.5 million copies. Message \| Report
	Nebulous posted 28/11/2009, 03:37 @ Boniitis: 3 million? haha, give me a break. Thats like $180,000,000. Actually, Silicon Knight's court documents say they had to negotiate a less favorable deal with MS after the Unreal Engine fiasco. I doubt it cost more than 30,000,000 tops. It was only in development for 4 years. Anyways, great but flawed game. Excellent beginning to the story, incredible art direction, and a solid, unique and fun combat system, with very addictive Diablo-style looting. Probably still the best definition of an action/ RPG game I've played today. Message \| Report
	Boneitis posted 26/11/2009, 06:26 Oh boy, this game probably needed to sell 3 million copies at the full price to see a profit. I doubt the planned sequels will ever see the light of day. Message \| Report
	dobby985 posted 08/11/2009, 02:10 I'm a huge Silicon Knights fan and it's not as bad as everyone says. Sure it's not as good as Blood Omen. Message \| Report
	geddesmond2 posted 11/10/2009, 12:13 80 million microsoft payed for this? Message \| Report
	BrayanA posted 02/10/2009, 09:14 @NicholasCage "Is this bundled in EU?" No and never was. Message \| Report
	Seinfeld posted 07/09/2009, 04:08 I bought this game for $10. I can't say it was worth even that much. Had the potential to be a great game, but it sucks. Message \| Report
	NicholasCage posted 03/09/2009, 11:46 Is this bundled in EU? Message \| Report
	KingEidilleg posted 09/08/2009, 10:33 Just bought it for 6 Euro. If I play it for an hour or longer, I think I got my money's worth Message \| Report
	Sanzee posted 25/07/2009, 06:38 God save Dennis Dyack. My Xbox 360 spit this back out after I put the disc in. It wouldn't play anything else for a week. Message \| Report
	Nightwish224 posted 25/06/2009, 05:06 The game was okay... but I just never reply it. Good thing I bought it used. Oh and the camera angle IS that bad. Message \| Report
	darklich13 posted 27/04/2009, 04:46 Bought this for $9.99 yesterday. So far I like it. Message \| Report
	Shadowblind posted 17/04/2009, 12:51 This game stands for all of my disappointment in SK. You can still find my hype posts on this board... Message \| Report
	TiagoCosta posted 10/04/2009, 03:21 buy 2 days ago for only 4.50 euro Message \| Report
	shinyuhadouken posted 08/04/2009, 07:09 I just picked it up for cheap 2 days ago. Message \| Report
	dsister44 posted 03/04/2009, 03:06 the camera in this game sucks!!! but besides that this game is awesome the combat is so much fun. Message \| Report
	Gabriel84 posted 26/01/2009, 02:11 9.99 @ GAME.co.uk Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 14/01/2009, 01:00 @Hardware123456 Metacritic & Gamerankings disagree with you Message \| Report
	disolitude posted 08/01/2009, 06:59 Ill pick up part 2 if they make it. The game needs more polish but is quite fun... Message \| Report
	klendathu posted 08/01/2009, 03:11 this is the best game I have ever played, it's not the gfx, but the loot, the story and the different gamecontrols. although in the 1st run I died way to often ... but with a strategy u'll get the "unstoppable" achievment .. had it only twice Message \| Report
	Hardware123456 posted 05/01/2009, 06:27 better thn this crap Message \| Report
	Myviewing posted 05/01/2009, 03:44 This game all that bad? I'd like to check it out maybe after a price drop and I am interested in the theme. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 04/01/2009, 10:07 Once again: No. Go and play SOCOM Message \| Report
	Hardware123456 posted 04/01/2009, 05:45 WORST GAME EVER!!! Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 04/01/2009, 01:28 Yeah this is selling much faster than Haze, and given did an impressive 600k, this is looking good. I hope its enough to convince MS for another game, again, this game has got some great ideas but fails on execution With that said, i dont see how 600k for Haze wasnt enough for FRD to stay alive = ( Message \| Report
	Stats87 posted 01/01/2009, 11:01 Haze is definitely not the worst game ever, neither is this for that matter. Both are a disappointment, but not even close to the worst ever. Haze is actually worth a rental and a playthrough once for the Co-Op Message \| Report
	Deviation59 posted 31/12/2008, 03:42 Even Haze is nearing 600k at this point. Doesn't mean that either title is really worthwhile. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 28/12/2008, 09:04 Wow JiaJia you were prooved wrong in less than a month! This will reach beyond 700k lifetime. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 28/12/2008, 12:12 No it's not. Go and play Haze Message \| Report
	Heavenly_King posted 27/12/2008, 10:53 WORST GAME EVER!!! Message \| Report
	De85 posted 26/12/2008, 08:53 I enjoyed the demo and am thinking about picking it up, especially now that the price has gone down, but I want some concrete info about the sequel or its cancellation before I make my decision. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 07/12/2008, 12:00 Its not selling too badly, easily hit 500k, and then maybe even 600k. Overall not bad, and a good userbase to make a sequel for Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 27/11/2008, 08:54 @JiaJia What are you talking about ? It's selling 10k per week. It will easily reach 500k. I'm pretty sure you didn't even play it, because if you had you would know that it isn't that bad. Message \| Report
	Bitmap Frogs posted 26/11/2008, 11:43 You know, we got soooo very few high-budget dungeon-crawling extravaganzas it pisses me off Silicon Knights failed to deliver =( Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 26/11/2008, 02:59 wont reach 500k. Its over, bargain bins it is where it still won't sell. THank goodness for gaming that people don't buy crap like this. Message \| Report
	Strategyking92 posted 23/11/2008, 05:49 haze sales. Message \| Report
	Strategyking92 posted 23/11/2008, 05:48 Week 1 7,259- 91,781 -53,086 -152,126 Week 2 2,744 -22,761- 37,835 -63,340- Week 3- 1,569 -14,112 -21,762 -37,443- Week 4 -1,305 -12,034 -12,182 -25,521- Week 5 -1,071 -10,205 7,515 18,791 Week 6 786 8,035 4,967 13,788 Week 7 625 6,179 4,279 11,083 Week 8 601 5,527 5,102 11,230 Week 9 590 4,234 5,350 10,174 Week 10 484 3,296 5,101 8,881 Message \| Report
	Picko posted 21/11/2008, 03:08 @ -GhostMLD-: I doubt you'll ever see a sequel. If you take the performance of the original (500k - 600k) and you factor in that a lot of people probably didn't enjoy it enough to get the second then you get a very unsuccessful sequel. Message \| Report
	-GhostMLD- posted 12/11/2008, 05:23 500k lifetime is ok. At least part 2 will improve upon the mechanics and actually sell/get a decent fan following. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 02/11/2008, 07:48 I agree, great ideas, terrible execution Sad really because the game could indeed be a whole lot of fun at times Message \| Report
	heruamon posted 20/10/2008, 03:13 Too Human probably failed to recoup it's cost, but if M$ is going ahead with the trilogy, I Think the next game can recover nicely. Regardless of what some might say, this game had ALOT of good fundamentals, and for the sequel, you'll have improvements of the system with more polish and shine. Message \| Report
	LOL MATURE posted 18/10/2008, 07:59 ACE - they did spend money to make UE3... But that's what they do. Even if they didn't make GeoW UE3 would still exist. Obviously they didn't need to create the engine for the game because the tech already existed. That they already made and were selling to make their money back for their work. Do you not understand how much time and money they saved by using their own pre-made engine? and in fact Silicon Knights is suing Epic because they licensed the engine and it didn't work for them. So they decided to create their own engine... how much resources went with that? They spent money on the license... tried to implement the engine... didn't work for them so they scrapped it and builkt their own from the ground up. Sound like a huge money hole for just that. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 17/10/2008, 05:27 If this can maintain 15k a week for the rest of the yea + christmas boost it could reach 500k+ then maybe 600k lifetime. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 14/10/2008, 11:30 LOL MATURE And what? U think Epic games did not spent money to create UE3? Lol. So lets do not include engine coast things here. Advertising? I seen only some Too Human' baners on some website. U think they spent 10 000 000 bucs on that baners? Message \| Report
	llewdebkram posted 13/10/2008, 01:02 Not my kind of game at all but if it did cost that much and did take all that effort to develop I feel kinda sorry for the developers if this is all it has sold. Message \| Report
	LOL MATURE posted 13/10/2008, 05:57 ACE - GeoW only cost 10,000,000 because EPIC used their Unreal Engine... You know... the one that cost 0 dollars to make because it was already made.... and cost 0 dollars to license because Epic owns the engine... Big cost reduction just for that. Also gears had huge advertising. Would be nice to know how much that ran... Halo 3 spent 10mil on TV alone. Message \| Report
	MorgZ posted 07/10/2008, 11:54 either way 350k is not what this game needed and expected to sell. Almost certainly heavily in loss atm due to the engine issues which plagued the game and wasted a lot of cash which would have been better spent on doing 4 player coop which would have resulted in better reviews and more sales. Hopefully this can hit 500k but even that is unlikely now. Lets not beat around the bush, this game was expecting 1m+ sales and is not going to get it. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 07/10/2008, 02:58 kuddles it is all about the budget, MS spent only 10 000 000 on Gears of War. U think they spent more on Too Human? Hell I think no. Anyway, publishers said that 200 000 is enough to repaid for a game with average budget and advertising. Trust me I know what I talking about. And look at Too Human. It has very cheap production values, exept music and story(wich cut into 3 games), so I dont think this game had even 10 000 000 bucks budget. Message \| Report
	kuddles posted 05/10/2008, 01:56 Sorry ACE, but you're mistaken. The average budget for a next-gen game is around 20 million. Hard to know for sure since like movie studios most publishers don't like talking about costs, something you would know if you actually worked in the gaming industry. Regardless, that's the estimate for titles like BioShock and The Darkness so let's go with that. Even though the game licensed the Unreal 3 engine and then built it's own from scratch, so right off that bat an "average" budget is highly unlikely. Let's do the math. $60 x 330k = 19.8 million dollars. This doesn't even take into account the cut the retailers get, or the advertising costs, or the production and printing costs. So even in the best case scenario, the game wouldn't have broken even. Message \| Report
	squeeky posted 03/10/2008, 07:55 This game was in development for years. It did not have an average budget. My guess would be >500k. So unless MS hands over a big money bag, this game is in the hole. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 03/10/2008, 02:01 200 000 is enough to repaid for a game with average budget and advertising. Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 03/10/2008, 12:09 ACE "works" in the gaming industry. Does that mean living in your basement playing the shit failure of a game called too human? NekoSOM took the words right out of my mouth. Get a job you dole bludger. Maybe an education too while you're at it. My goodness. You just reap of failure you ain't worth my time. This game fails. You fail. Period. Peace out y'all. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 02/10/2008, 11:03 @DMeisterJ Too Human vs. Haze: 1st week: 183k - 152k 2nd week: 56k - 63k 3rd week: 31k - 37k 4th week: 26k - 26k 5th week: 21k (with Japan) - 19k after 5 weeks: 317k - 297k _____________________ Both not good, but Too Human won't lose against Haze. Message \| Report
	DMeisterJ posted 01/10/2008, 09:53 Wow. Haze might sell more than this. That'd make this game an epic fail. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 30/09/2008, 06:55 very funny. so where is the link with proof, not rumors? Message \| Report
	NekoSOM posted 29/09/2008, 07:06 ACE, being in the AV club at your junior high school doesn't qualify you as part of the "gaming industry". I'm pretty sure those in the actual gaming industry can not only read and write (I'm relatively certain you are unaware of what "Epic Fail" means since you use it completely out of context) but would understand that developers can in fact develop more than one game at a time. Secondly, why do you require Denis Dyack to say it is so for it to be so? I have no doubt he has no desire to admit his pet project was such an albatross. Admitting it has such a massive budget would be a tacit admission of its failure. Or perhaps I'll put it in language you'll understand. Big company make bad game for these many years (holds up 9 fingers) big booboo on wallet EPIC FAIL. Message \| Report
	Kaim_90 posted 28/09/2008, 12:51 Egghead , this is not like Haze or Lair . Too Human not is a videogame exceptional, but is at least discreet . Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 26/09/2008, 07:03 JiaJia, omg I see just another Epic Fail post LOL, next time show me direct link where Denis Dyack said about budget of the game. And try to use brain next time. BTW I work in gaming industry, so lol. your post is Epic Fail 2 times! Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 26/09/2008, 01:31 ACE ... cry me a river... industry insiders know more than an internet geek like you. Its ESTIMATE between 70 - 100 million .. they given reasons for the estimate. You talk out of your ass. So who's post is epic fail? Exactly .... Nonetheless the game bombed. Period. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 24/09/2008, 02:04 @ Wildcard975 Hmm i never knew that, either way, huge drop-off. We have another Lair and Haze (teh irony...) Message \| Report
	Infinity posted 22/09/2008, 04:59 This game bombed. Message \| Report
	disolitude posted 22/09/2008, 06:31 Game has some issues but its fun to play...give it a try. Message \| Report
	jasonnc80 posted 22/09/2008, 01:33 People seriously need to use some common sense. Do you know how big Silicon Knights is as a developer. A budgeted game of around $100 million would destroy a company like that. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 18/09/2008, 12:07 lol U cant read did u? "While the budget of this tale of genetically enhanced humans trying to thwart a machine menace is only rumored..." LOL EPIC FAIL Message \| Report
	foxhounder posted 18/09/2008, 09:22 Orange: that link only confirms that the budget numbers are rumoured. Message \| Report
	Orange posted 18/09/2008, 02:12 Here's one link: http://blog.knowyourmoney.co.uk/index.php/2008/08/10-most-expensive-video-game-budgets-ever/ i think if you search google you can find more confirmation of the budget. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 17/09/2008, 11:25 Are u sure this means canada is included? http://www.vgchartz.com/games/flag_us.png I think VG didnt include Canada and Australia Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 17/09/2008, 11:22 JiaJia Your post is epic fail. and give me the link where Denis Dyack said they spent 100 000 000 bucs on TH lol Message \| Report
	Wildcard975 posted 17/09/2008, 12:46 Egghead NPD only track U.S. numbers. Vgchartz also inlcudes Canada in there numbers. Message \| Report
	poonus21 posted 16/09/2008, 05:07 so much for a trilogy lol. Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 16/09/2008, 03:12 The press + people developing the game > you guys who know nothing. Its been estimate at anywhere between 70 - 100 million. Epic flop. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 13/09/2008, 11:17 LOL! They didnt made TH since 99, coz they made Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid TS in that period(99-2004). U think they spent 100 000 000 buks making PS1 alfa version in 1999? LOL! and U think Microsoft gave them 100 000 000 bucs on 360 version when MS spent only 10 000 000 on such big title like Gears of War? LOL! I think MS spent less 10 000 000 on TH so it cover the expenses and your arguments are ridiculous. Message \| Report
	freebird4 posted 13/09/2008, 06:59 Too Human probably didn't even cost $30 million. Message \| Report
	freebird4 posted 13/09/2008, 06:58 Too Human did not cost $100 million. Message \| Report
	NekoSOM posted 12/09/2008, 08:49 Dude, Ace, he put the evidence right at you. Yes, the 360 version of the game may have only been in production since 2004, but the game itself has been in production since 1997. To think, the game has been in production longer than some of the gamers who bought it have been alive. I'm amazed they've only spent $100,000,000, I would have thought it closer to 150. For development to have spanned 4 consoles (PSX, PS2, GC, 360), and so essentially is 4 separately developed games, the price could have been higher. Having played the end product, I just don't understand what took them so long. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 12/09/2008, 05:25 and what? Go and read interviews Message \| Report
	SuperJon posted 12/09/2008, 02:47 At ACE, Well no, you're plain wrong. Too Human was at E3 in 1999. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2451246.html Are you suggesting that they showed the game off five years in advance? Halo 2 isn't anywhere near the biggest development project in history, lets not be thick. Shenmue cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 million dollars according to Sega, and it was only in development from 1995 or 1996 to 2000, on two consoles, which is somewhat less than 1997 or 1998 to 2008 across three consoles. So the price isn't that ridiculous. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 12/09/2008, 01:03 NPD are saying 170k, but i dont know what their period are Message \| Report
	SHMUPGurus posted 10/09/2008, 05:38 All I know is this: From the second I've started Too Human, I didn't encounter A SINGLE bug/glitch, unlike some other 60-worthy games I've played years before. I think people were expecting Too Human to be something else, but why not just enjoy it for what it is? It's finally here, and you can clearly see the little touches of detail everywhere in the game (notice the walking animation when you push the stick a little, then stop, then repush... That's the first thing I notice in a game most of the time). I can't wait for the sequel, and let's hope for the best this time around! Message \| Report
	\|_emmiwinks posted 09/09/2008, 08:20 Really? You think this game will have legs? it went from 130k in America to.. 33k. Thats one hell of a drop off for its second week. Message \| Report
	Simulacrum posted 09/09/2008, 04:59 Pretty much like haze Message \| Report
	DevilishSix posted 08/09/2008, 07:20 Love the game, it has received far to much hate, when it actually is a pretty good game. Its, like a Diablo but with futuristic guns and an interesting melee control mechanic. I would not read to much into the sales for Europe....that represents one day sales figures. I expect this title to have legs and be a steady seller, but it won't sell millions. If MS and SK are smart, this game screams of DLC like what NG2 got with the Mission Mode content. Anyways, highly addicting and fun game. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 08/09/2008, 06:40 I hope not. If it will make past 500k there might be a chance for at least one sequel. I must convincing some people immediately to buy this game... Message \| Report
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Sales History

Total Sales

0.03m
Japan

0.38m
NA

0.30m
Europe

0.08m
Others

0.78m
Total

1	n/a	114,971	n/a	20,289	135,260
2	9,581	28,118	31,566	10,895	80,160
3	2,950	12,089	16,675	5,214	36,928
4	2,455	6,915	10,150	3,096	22,616
5	1,912	5,338	11,681	3,061	21,992
6	1,484	4,746	9,508	2,567	18,305
7	1,245	4,084	8,138	2,201	15,668
8	970	3,236	6,790	1,803	12,799
9	675	2,519	6,642	1,640	11,476
10	581	2,047	6,054	1,447	10,129

Opinion (148)

	Ganoncrotch posted 08/09/2012, 12:45 I actually loved this game, self and my bro played through the whole thing co op over xbl and got every achievement in the game, if you have the unstoppable achievements on your xbox live profile I tip my hat to you, this is one tough nut to finish without dying but damn rewarding game if you get into it. Just a shame it was meant to be a trilogy originally so the game ends on a fairly class cliffhanger which will never be resolved.... will never get to fight that giant mech shown in the ending... depressing. Message \| Report
	thewastedyouth posted 13/04/2012, 06:27 If they had made this 4 player coop and let you trade the loot with some sort of auction house this would have been amazing very sad!!! Message \| Report
	wiilicious posted 13/02/2012, 01:24 Don't care about your opinion I like this game. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 24/09/2011, 09:28 Pretty disappointing game. Message \| Report
	slipknotfan posted 26/06/2011, 04:49 This game stunk. Was gonna be a new franchise. Glad it wasnt! Message \| Report
	MiSan7573 posted 02/02/2011, 01:27 LOL..this shovelware does not look like a game that took 3 years to create. It's sad when Silicon Knights actually took a decade to create this dissapointment which probably lead to their demise. I got it for $5 during the time fry's was clearing their stock and it's what it is worth in my opinion. Message \| Report
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	Ganoncrotch posted 08/09/2012, 12:45 I actually loved this game, self and my bro played through the whole thing co op over xbl and got every achievement in the game, if you have the unstoppable achievements on your xbox live profile I tip my hat to you, this is one tough nut to finish without dying but damn rewarding game if you get into it. Just a shame it was meant to be a trilogy originally so the game ends on a fairly class cliffhanger which will never be resolved.... will never get to fight that giant mech shown in the ending... depressing. Message \| Report
	thewastedyouth posted 13/04/2012, 06:27 If they had made this 4 player coop and let you trade the loot with some sort of auction house this would have been amazing very sad!!! Message \| Report
	wiilicious posted 13/02/2012, 01:24 Don't care about your opinion I like this game. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 24/09/2011, 09:28 Pretty disappointing game. Message \| Report
	slipknotfan posted 26/06/2011, 04:49 This game stunk. Was gonna be a new franchise. Glad it wasnt! Message \| Report
	MiSan7573 posted 02/02/2011, 01:27 LOL..this shovelware does not look like a game that took 3 years to create. It's sad when Silicon Knights actually took a decade to create this dissapointment which probably lead to their demise. I got it for $5 during the time fry's was clearing their stock and it's what it is worth in my opinion. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 21/01/2011, 08:15 Edit: I meant 2008, not 2009. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 21/01/2011, 08:15 For the record, they didn't actually spend 10 years creating this game. A PS1 game was in the works and got scraped. A Gamecube game was in the works but got scraped. MS bought rights in 2005 and the game was released in 2009. Hence, they spent like 3 years creating THIS game. Message \| Report
	Mr Puggsly posted 21/01/2011, 08:06 It only needs to sell a thousand every week for 270 more weeks to hit a million. :-p Message \| Report
	oni-link posted 22/04/2010, 08:41 @ivery I'd rather play this game than Lair!!! Message \| Report
	Aion posted 13/04/2010, 04:09 Really good game, to bad every one bashes this game with crap like 10 years to develop. Message \| Report
	Iveyboi posted 31/03/2010, 05:02 This is one of the worst games ever made. 10+ years? Come on man. RIP Silicon Knights. Message \| Report
	Altitude posted 26/02/2010, 08:12 This is a great game. I can't wait for the sequel. Message \| Report
	elticker posted 23/02/2010, 10:25 Very nice game. Deserves more but the camera control is what made people flock away from it like i did when i played the demo btu when i bought it i got used to it the story is great though its mostly 4 or 5 huge levels Message \| Report
	Nebulous posted 03/02/2010, 02:02 @ Gilgamesh: Dude.... no, no, and no. Think about what you're saying, $80 million? who would have given Silicon Knights that kind of money, for one game? that's preposterous, and utter bullocks. In truth, they were making a Too human for PS1, the game was in development, but then got shelved when SK began working on Eternal Darkenss. After that, the only think ever shown was a CG trailer they made for Gamecube. Too Human on 360 is an entirely different game. Those points were made in the EGM TH cover story, and in TH's IGN blog. On 360, the game was in development for 4 years (started in 2004 I believe). There's no way Microsoft would have given them 80 Million upfornt, thats not how publishing contracts work, you have to hit milestones to get paid. @ oni-link: Dude, the only person who factually knows how long TH was in development is Denis Dyack. The fact that you're trying to argue what the creator of the game says, is hilarious. Message \| Report
	oni-link posted 11/01/2010, 09:30 um that doesn' t prove anything. Anyhoo this game is decent for the price I picked it up for ($10 @frys). If we see a sequel hopefully ppl will be more understanding. Message \| Report
	dsister44 posted 02/01/2010, 12:24 It was not in development for 10 years.http://xbox.joystiq.com/2008/08/25/dyack-on-10-years-of-too-human-misconception/ Message \| Report
	Gilgamesh posted 18/12/2009, 04:00 @Nebulous, Too Human was in development for almost 10 years. It was originally planed for the PSOne. It cost roughly $80 million to make which was funded all by Microsoft. In order to break even they'll have to sell around 3.5 million copies. Message \| Report
	Nebulous posted 28/11/2009, 03:37 @ Boniitis: 3 million? haha, give me a break. Thats like $180,000,000. Actually, Silicon Knight's court documents say they had to negotiate a less favorable deal with MS after the Unreal Engine fiasco. I doubt it cost more than 30,000,000 tops. It was only in development for 4 years. Anyways, great but flawed game. Excellent beginning to the story, incredible art direction, and a solid, unique and fun combat system, with very addictive Diablo-style looting. Probably still the best definition of an action/ RPG game I've played today. Message \| Report
	Boneitis posted 26/11/2009, 06:26 Oh boy, this game probably needed to sell 3 million copies at the full price to see a profit. I doubt the planned sequels will ever see the light of day. Message \| Report
	dobby985 posted 08/11/2009, 02:10 I'm a huge Silicon Knights fan and it's not as bad as everyone says. Sure it's not as good as Blood Omen. Message \| Report
	geddesmond2 posted 11/10/2009, 12:13 80 million microsoft payed for this? Message \| Report
	BrayanA posted 02/10/2009, 09:14 @NicholasCage "Is this bundled in EU?" No and never was. Message \| Report
	Seinfeld posted 07/09/2009, 04:08 I bought this game for $10. I can't say it was worth even that much. Had the potential to be a great game, but it sucks. Message \| Report
	NicholasCage posted 03/09/2009, 11:46 Is this bundled in EU? Message \| Report
	KingEidilleg posted 09/08/2009, 10:33 Just bought it for 6 Euro. If I play it for an hour or longer, I think I got my money's worth Message \| Report
	Sanzee posted 25/07/2009, 06:38 God save Dennis Dyack. My Xbox 360 spit this back out after I put the disc in. It wouldn't play anything else for a week. Message \| Report
	Nightwish224 posted 25/06/2009, 05:06 The game was okay... but I just never reply it. Good thing I bought it used. Oh and the camera angle IS that bad. Message \| Report
	darklich13 posted 27/04/2009, 04:46 Bought this for $9.99 yesterday. So far I like it. Message \| Report
	Shadowblind posted 17/04/2009, 12:51 This game stands for all of my disappointment in SK. You can still find my hype posts on this board... Message \| Report
	TiagoCosta posted 10/04/2009, 03:21 buy 2 days ago for only 4.50 euro Message \| Report
	shinyuhadouken posted 08/04/2009, 07:09 I just picked it up for cheap 2 days ago. Message \| Report
	dsister44 posted 03/04/2009, 03:06 the camera in this game sucks!!! but besides that this game is awesome the combat is so much fun. Message \| Report
	Gabriel84 posted 26/01/2009, 02:11 9.99 @ GAME.co.uk Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 14/01/2009, 01:00 @Hardware123456 Metacritic & Gamerankings disagree with you Message \| Report
	disolitude posted 08/01/2009, 06:59 Ill pick up part 2 if they make it. The game needs more polish but is quite fun... Message \| Report
	klendathu posted 08/01/2009, 03:11 this is the best game I have ever played, it's not the gfx, but the loot, the story and the different gamecontrols. although in the 1st run I died way to often ... but with a strategy u'll get the "unstoppable" achievment .. had it only twice Message \| Report
	Hardware123456 posted 05/01/2009, 06:27 better thn this crap Message \| Report
	Myviewing posted 05/01/2009, 03:44 This game all that bad? I'd like to check it out maybe after a price drop and I am interested in the theme. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 04/01/2009, 10:07 Once again: No. Go and play SOCOM Message \| Report
	Hardware123456 posted 04/01/2009, 05:45 WORST GAME EVER!!! Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 04/01/2009, 01:28 Yeah this is selling much faster than Haze, and given did an impressive 600k, this is looking good. I hope its enough to convince MS for another game, again, this game has got some great ideas but fails on execution With that said, i dont see how 600k for Haze wasnt enough for FRD to stay alive = ( Message \| Report
	Stats87 posted 01/01/2009, 11:01 Haze is definitely not the worst game ever, neither is this for that matter. Both are a disappointment, but not even close to the worst ever. Haze is actually worth a rental and a playthrough once for the Co-Op Message \| Report
	Deviation59 posted 31/12/2008, 03:42 Even Haze is nearing 600k at this point. Doesn't mean that either title is really worthwhile. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 28/12/2008, 09:04 Wow JiaJia you were prooved wrong in less than a month! This will reach beyond 700k lifetime. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 28/12/2008, 12:12 No it's not. Go and play Haze Message \| Report
	Heavenly_King posted 27/12/2008, 10:53 WORST GAME EVER!!! Message \| Report
	De85 posted 26/12/2008, 08:53 I enjoyed the demo and am thinking about picking it up, especially now that the price has gone down, but I want some concrete info about the sequel or its cancellation before I make my decision. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 07/12/2008, 12:00 Its not selling too badly, easily hit 500k, and then maybe even 600k. Overall not bad, and a good userbase to make a sequel for Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 27/11/2008, 08:54 @JiaJia What are you talking about ? It's selling 10k per week. It will easily reach 500k. I'm pretty sure you didn't even play it, because if you had you would know that it isn't that bad. Message \| Report
	Bitmap Frogs posted 26/11/2008, 11:43 You know, we got soooo very few high-budget dungeon-crawling extravaganzas it pisses me off Silicon Knights failed to deliver =( Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 26/11/2008, 02:59 wont reach 500k. Its over, bargain bins it is where it still won't sell. THank goodness for gaming that people don't buy crap like this. Message \| Report
	Strategyking92 posted 23/11/2008, 05:49 haze sales. Message \| Report
	Strategyking92 posted 23/11/2008, 05:48 Week 1 7,259- 91,781 -53,086 -152,126 Week 2 2,744 -22,761- 37,835 -63,340- Week 3- 1,569 -14,112 -21,762 -37,443- Week 4 -1,305 -12,034 -12,182 -25,521- Week 5 -1,071 -10,205 7,515 18,791 Week 6 786 8,035 4,967 13,788 Week 7 625 6,179 4,279 11,083 Week 8 601 5,527 5,102 11,230 Week 9 590 4,234 5,350 10,174 Week 10 484 3,296 5,101 8,881 Message \| Report
	Picko posted 21/11/2008, 03:08 @ -GhostMLD-: I doubt you'll ever see a sequel. If you take the performance of the original (500k - 600k) and you factor in that a lot of people probably didn't enjoy it enough to get the second then you get a very unsuccessful sequel. Message \| Report
	-GhostMLD- posted 12/11/2008, 05:23 500k lifetime is ok. At least part 2 will improve upon the mechanics and actually sell/get a decent fan following. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 02/11/2008, 07:48 I agree, great ideas, terrible execution Sad really because the game could indeed be a whole lot of fun at times Message \| Report
	heruamon posted 20/10/2008, 03:13 Too Human probably failed to recoup it's cost, but if M$ is going ahead with the trilogy, I Think the next game can recover nicely. Regardless of what some might say, this game had ALOT of good fundamentals, and for the sequel, you'll have improvements of the system with more polish and shine. Message \| Report
	LOL MATURE posted 18/10/2008, 07:59 ACE - they did spend money to make UE3... But that's what they do. Even if they didn't make GeoW UE3 would still exist. Obviously they didn't need to create the engine for the game because the tech already existed. That they already made and were selling to make their money back for their work. Do you not understand how much time and money they saved by using their own pre-made engine? and in fact Silicon Knights is suing Epic because they licensed the engine and it didn't work for them. So they decided to create their own engine... how much resources went with that? They spent money on the license... tried to implement the engine... didn't work for them so they scrapped it and builkt their own from the ground up. Sound like a huge money hole for just that. Message \| Report
	Seece posted 17/10/2008, 05:27 If this can maintain 15k a week for the rest of the yea + christmas boost it could reach 500k+ then maybe 600k lifetime. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 14/10/2008, 11:30 LOL MATURE And what? U think Epic games did not spent money to create UE3? Lol. So lets do not include engine coast things here. Advertising? I seen only some Too Human' baners on some website. U think they spent 10 000 000 bucs on that baners? Message \| Report
	llewdebkram posted 13/10/2008, 01:02 Not my kind of game at all but if it did cost that much and did take all that effort to develop I feel kinda sorry for the developers if this is all it has sold. Message \| Report
	LOL MATURE posted 13/10/2008, 05:57 ACE - GeoW only cost 10,000,000 because EPIC used their Unreal Engine... You know... the one that cost 0 dollars to make because it was already made.... and cost 0 dollars to license because Epic owns the engine... Big cost reduction just for that. Also gears had huge advertising. Would be nice to know how much that ran... Halo 3 spent 10mil on TV alone. Message \| Report
	MorgZ posted 07/10/2008, 11:54 either way 350k is not what this game needed and expected to sell. Almost certainly heavily in loss atm due to the engine issues which plagued the game and wasted a lot of cash which would have been better spent on doing 4 player coop which would have resulted in better reviews and more sales. Hopefully this can hit 500k but even that is unlikely now. Lets not beat around the bush, this game was expecting 1m+ sales and is not going to get it. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 07/10/2008, 02:58 kuddles it is all about the budget, MS spent only 10 000 000 on Gears of War. U think they spent more on Too Human? Hell I think no. Anyway, publishers said that 200 000 is enough to repaid for a game with average budget and advertising. Trust me I know what I talking about. And look at Too Human. It has very cheap production values, exept music and story(wich cut into 3 games), so I dont think this game had even 10 000 000 bucks budget. Message \| Report
	kuddles posted 05/10/2008, 01:56 Sorry ACE, but you're mistaken. The average budget for a next-gen game is around 20 million. Hard to know for sure since like movie studios most publishers don't like talking about costs, something you would know if you actually worked in the gaming industry. Regardless, that's the estimate for titles like BioShock and The Darkness so let's go with that. Even though the game licensed the Unreal 3 engine and then built it's own from scratch, so right off that bat an "average" budget is highly unlikely. Let's do the math. $60 x 330k = 19.8 million dollars. This doesn't even take into account the cut the retailers get, or the advertising costs, or the production and printing costs. So even in the best case scenario, the game wouldn't have broken even. Message \| Report
	squeeky posted 03/10/2008, 07:55 This game was in development for years. It did not have an average budget. My guess would be >500k. So unless MS hands over a big money bag, this game is in the hole. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 03/10/2008, 02:01 200 000 is enough to repaid for a game with average budget and advertising. Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 03/10/2008, 12:09 ACE "works" in the gaming industry. Does that mean living in your basement playing the shit failure of a game called too human? NekoSOM took the words right out of my mouth. Get a job you dole bludger. Maybe an education too while you're at it. My goodness. You just reap of failure you ain't worth my time. This game fails. You fail. Period. Peace out y'all. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 02/10/2008, 11:03 @DMeisterJ Too Human vs. Haze: 1st week: 183k - 152k 2nd week: 56k - 63k 3rd week: 31k - 37k 4th week: 26k - 26k 5th week: 21k (with Japan) - 19k after 5 weeks: 317k - 297k _____________________ Both not good, but Too Human won't lose against Haze. Message \| Report
	DMeisterJ posted 01/10/2008, 09:53 Wow. Haze might sell more than this. That'd make this game an epic fail. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 30/09/2008, 06:55 very funny. so where is the link with proof, not rumors? Message \| Report
	NekoSOM posted 29/09/2008, 07:06 ACE, being in the AV club at your junior high school doesn't qualify you as part of the "gaming industry". I'm pretty sure those in the actual gaming industry can not only read and write (I'm relatively certain you are unaware of what "Epic Fail" means since you use it completely out of context) but would understand that developers can in fact develop more than one game at a time. Secondly, why do you require Denis Dyack to say it is so for it to be so? I have no doubt he has no desire to admit his pet project was such an albatross. Admitting it has such a massive budget would be a tacit admission of its failure. Or perhaps I'll put it in language you'll understand. Big company make bad game for these many years (holds up 9 fingers) big booboo on wallet EPIC FAIL. Message \| Report
	Kaim_90 posted 28/09/2008, 12:51 Egghead , this is not like Haze or Lair . Too Human not is a videogame exceptional, but is at least discreet . Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 26/09/2008, 07:03 JiaJia, omg I see just another Epic Fail post LOL, next time show me direct link where Denis Dyack said about budget of the game. And try to use brain next time. BTW I work in gaming industry, so lol. your post is Epic Fail 2 times! Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 26/09/2008, 01:31 ACE ... cry me a river... industry insiders know more than an internet geek like you. Its ESTIMATE between 70 - 100 million .. they given reasons for the estimate. You talk out of your ass. So who's post is epic fail? Exactly .... Nonetheless the game bombed. Period. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 24/09/2008, 02:04 @ Wildcard975 Hmm i never knew that, either way, huge drop-off. We have another Lair and Haze (teh irony...) Message \| Report
	Infinity posted 22/09/2008, 04:59 This game bombed. Message \| Report
	disolitude posted 22/09/2008, 06:31 Game has some issues but its fun to play...give it a try. Message \| Report
	jasonnc80 posted 22/09/2008, 01:33 People seriously need to use some common sense. Do you know how big Silicon Knights is as a developer. A budgeted game of around $100 million would destroy a company like that. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 18/09/2008, 12:07 lol U cant read did u? "While the budget of this tale of genetically enhanced humans trying to thwart a machine menace is only rumored..." LOL EPIC FAIL Message \| Report
	foxhounder posted 18/09/2008, 09:22 Orange: that link only confirms that the budget numbers are rumoured. Message \| Report
	Orange posted 18/09/2008, 02:12 Here's one link: http://blog.knowyourmoney.co.uk/index.php/2008/08/10-most-expensive-video-game-budgets-ever/ i think if you search google you can find more confirmation of the budget. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 17/09/2008, 11:25 Are u sure this means canada is included? http://www.vgchartz.com/games/flag_us.png I think VG didnt include Canada and Australia Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 17/09/2008, 11:22 JiaJia Your post is epic fail. and give me the link where Denis Dyack said they spent 100 000 000 bucs on TH lol Message \| Report
	Wildcard975 posted 17/09/2008, 12:46 Egghead NPD only track U.S. numbers. Vgchartz also inlcudes Canada in there numbers. Message \| Report
	poonus21 posted 16/09/2008, 05:07 so much for a trilogy lol. Message \| Report
	JiaJia posted 16/09/2008, 03:12 The press + people developing the game > you guys who know nothing. Its been estimate at anywhere between 70 - 100 million. Epic flop. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 13/09/2008, 11:17 LOL! They didnt made TH since 99, coz they made Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid TS in that period(99-2004). U think they spent 100 000 000 buks making PS1 alfa version in 1999? LOL! and U think Microsoft gave them 100 000 000 bucs on 360 version when MS spent only 10 000 000 on such big title like Gears of War? LOL! I think MS spent less 10 000 000 on TH so it cover the expenses and your arguments are ridiculous. Message \| Report
	freebird4 posted 13/09/2008, 06:59 Too Human probably didn't even cost $30 million. Message \| Report
	freebird4 posted 13/09/2008, 06:58 Too Human did not cost $100 million. Message \| Report
	NekoSOM posted 12/09/2008, 08:49 Dude, Ace, he put the evidence right at you. Yes, the 360 version of the game may have only been in production since 2004, but the game itself has been in production since 1997. To think, the game has been in production longer than some of the gamers who bought it have been alive. I'm amazed they've only spent $100,000,000, I would have thought it closer to 150. For development to have spanned 4 consoles (PSX, PS2, GC, 360), and so essentially is 4 separately developed games, the price could have been higher. Having played the end product, I just don't understand what took them so long. Message \| Report
	ACEtheVAMPIRE posted 12/09/2008, 05:25 and what? Go and read interviews Message \| Report
	SuperJon posted 12/09/2008, 02:47 At ACE, Well no, you're plain wrong. Too Human was at E3 in 1999. http://www.gamespot.com/news/2451246.html Are you suggesting that they showed the game off five years in advance? Halo 2 isn't anywhere near the biggest development project in history, lets not be thick. Shenmue cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 million dollars according to Sega, and it was only in development from 1995 or 1996 to 2000, on two consoles, which is somewhat less than 1997 or 1998 to 2008 across three consoles. So the price isn't that ridiculous. Message \| Report
	Egghead posted 12/09/2008, 01:03 NPD are saying 170k, but i dont know what their period are Message \| Report
	SHMUPGurus posted 10/09/2008, 05:38 All I know is this: From the second I've started Too Human, I didn't encounter A SINGLE bug/glitch, unlike some other 60-worthy games I've played years before. I think people were expecting Too Human to be something else, but why not just enjoy it for what it is? It's finally here, and you can clearly see the little touches of detail everywhere in the game (notice the walking animation when you push the stick a little, then stop, then repush... That's the first thing I notice in a game most of the time). I can't wait for the sequel, and let's hope for the best this time around! Message \| Report
	\|_emmiwinks posted 09/09/2008, 08:20 Really? You think this game will have legs? it went from 130k in America to.. 33k. Thats one hell of a drop off for its second week. Message \| Report
	Simulacrum posted 09/09/2008, 04:59 Pretty much like haze Message \| Report
	DevilishSix posted 08/09/2008, 07:20 Love the game, it has received far to much hate, when it actually is a pretty good game. Its, like a Diablo but with futuristic guns and an interesting melee control mechanic. I would not read to much into the sales for Europe....that represents one day sales figures. I expect this title to have legs and be a steady seller, but it won't sell millions. If MS and SK are smart, this game screams of DLC like what NG2 got with the Mission Mode content. Anyways, highly addicting and fun game. Message \| Report
	Barozi posted 08/09/2008, 06:40 I hope not. If it will make past 500k there might be a chance for at least one sequel. I must convincing some people immediately to buy this game... Message \| Report
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	Ganoncrotch posted 08/09/2012, 12:45 I actually loved this game, self and my bro played through the whole thing co op over xbl and got every achievement in the game, if you have the unstoppable achievements on your xbox live profile I tip my hat to you, this is one tough nut to finish without dying but damn rewarding game if you get into it. Just a shame it was meant to be a trilogy originally so the game ends on a fairly class cliffhanger which will never be resolved.... will never get to fight that giant mech shown in the ending... depressing. Message \| Report
	thewastedyouth posted 13/04/2012, 06:27 If they had made this 4 player coop and let you trade the loot with some sort of auction house this would have been amazing very sad!!! Message \| Report
	wiilicious posted 13/02/2012, 01:24 Don't care about your opinion I like this game. Message \| Report
	yo_john117 posted 24/09/2011, 09:28 Pretty disappointing game. Message \| Report
	slipknotfan posted 26/06/2011, 04:49 This game stunk. Was gonna be a new franchise. Glad it wasnt! Message \| Report
	MiSan7573 posted 02/02/2011, 01:27 LOL..this shovelware does not look like a game that took 3 years to create. It's sad when Silicon Knights actually took a decade to create this dissapointment which probably lead to their demise. I got it for $5 during the time fry's was clearing their stock and it's what it is worth in my opinion. Message \| Report
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